Your ideals of a Republic should have been implemented 200 years ago. It's a little late, or actually way past reality, to suggest that we change now. If you are insinuating that Bush is suddenly the founding leader of the idea of democracy then you really are not worthy of being on this panel of Red States Bloggers.

"Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those others that have been." Winston Churchill 1947

"I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy" Abraham Lincoln.

I believe your over intelligence has clouded your judgement. Democracy is a vehicle to try to attain peace and order. People are always the responsible party for the outcome of their voting.

"Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back to the fire and burn their behinds then they will just have to sit on their blisters."
Abraham Lincoln

As long as there are people with different values and principles, there will always be disagreements. The world's not perfect because people are not.

Democracy is America's vehicle which has advanced the entire world to a level no other government has been able to achieve. Get your personal feelings about Bush out of your judgement and help us out with reality, 9-11.

"Democracy" is simply a feel-good word. It is used to manipulate the simple into accepting an immoral outrage like the Iraqi slaughterfest as a noble goal, kinda like calling the polluter's Bill of Rights the "Clear Skies Initiative."

Very good point Dr Williams. It is important to point out that the word Democracy is sometimes misunderstood and misused. Your comment about Switzerland

"Switzerland's federal government controls only those interests common to all cantons -- national defense, foreign policy, railways and the like."

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't our federal government suppose to be keeping it's nose out of our state affairs too?

Democracy has many faces. The Dems recently started the mantra 'One person, one vote.'

The last time this mantra was used successfully was in Rome. The word 'Veto', meaning 'I forbid', became the cat call of the mob every time a sensible law was suggested.

Once the mob had control, chaos set in. And, on the heels of chaos, civil war, and on the heels of civil war, an 'Emperor' was created.

This dictator was refered to as the '1st Citizen' of the Republic ... yeah, sure.

Napoleon duplicated that same process and left France with a legacy that is called 'democratic'. Someone should look up the 'rights' cops have over 'citizens' in that 'republic' before they start suggesting that we should copy France.

The Founding Fathers read their history, saw the chaos of Rome, and knew that a Republic was the only way to lift the citenry upward into intellectual and economic freedom. After all, our grievance with England was primarily an economic rebellion against a heavy handed 'centerist' state bent on unfair taxation.

The Founding Fathers saw what a sham French democracy became and opposed them .. except for a few sinister types who coveted Napoleon's power ... which is why the Bill of Rights was forced onto the political process by the Veterans (Civilian Soldiers) of that period in retaliation to that trend among the elitists.

So what is DEMOCRACY? A worthless word if you allow your Republic to fall into a dictatorship sponsored by mob rule. A worthless word if you allow 'elitists' of any stripe to subvert the public good for their own arrogant power and gain. A worthless word if you let any political process do your thinking for you.

When I put on the uniform to serve this great nation, my oath was to defend the CONSTITUTION and the REPUBLIC. I didn't hear a word mentioned about a democracy.

But my motivation for serving this great nation comes right out of he Declaration of Independence:

"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Anyone know any modern politicians or supreme court judges who live by this standard? Or is it only the soldiers?

Right you are, Athling. The Republic provides security for the minority by establishing limited government and limiting the majority. Many people do not know what a democracy really is--a mobocracy. The genius of our founding fathers is that they studied history and developed a system that was designed to create a nation that was governed by law--dispassionate and not subject to the whims of one person, few persons, or the majority. Their goal was to create a FREE PEOPLE.

For those of you who think that a democracy is the way to go, have you ever been the victim of a majority vote? Ever seen a scheme in which a group of persons conspire to commit a crime against another person? The only difference between the first and the second scenarios is a vote. The republic limits the power of the majority in order to PROTECT the minority.

In other words, Dr. Williams is absolutely right.

Loser,

Yep ... Mobocracy is the correct term here.

Wittingly, or unwittingly, the Mob wants to destroy the Republic and replace it with ???? here's where I get confused ... replace it with ... uhhh ... a 'Utopia' ??? ... can anyone show me a working example of a utopia? ... ruled by 'whom'??? ... and ruled without all of those wonderful checks and balances?

Sounds pretty sinister to me. And only a naive, childish, and gullible person with an MTV IQ would trust politicians to rule without checks and balances.

If the Republic goes, then the Constitution is no longer relevant. The Constitution was crafted specifically for a Republic ... not for a Mob. The idea of checks and balances does not apply to Mob rule, or the dictatorship that will soon follow.

Thus, I can say with the greatest confidence, that those who call for 'One person, one vote' are active enemies of the Republic and the Constitution, and should be treated as such.

Since the modern DNC sponsored this mantra ... we can now rightly identify the modern DNC as a subversive organization.

Yikes!!! No wonder they're against Homeland Security ... makes ya wonder what they're up to huh?

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